To tell a discussion from memory

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Who was right: Ganesh or Kartikeya?

﻿Hello everyone my name is Miss Weerasekera and welcome to lesson two in our unit about our discussion, about whether Ganesh cheated or not in the story from the last unit. In the last lesson you heard from Judge James, who told us the points for and against the point of Ganesh cheating. Now we had a go at creating our own discussion map and today it's time to put that discussion map to use. We're going to use it to step the story, and then we're going to use it to speak the story too. So we've got lots of fun things to do today, and we can get started now. In today's lesson, you're going to need a pen and pencil to write down notes, but mostly we're going to be focusing on our bodies and our performances in our step and using our voice in our story. What you will really need is your story map from the previous lesson if you've got that, because we might add a few notes to that. So go and get your story map. It's always good to have a pen and pencil as well. So get one of those and then press play when you're ready to get started. So for our oral game today, we're playing a game called two sides of the story, and this is going to be a really useful game that we're going to do today, but might do again in a future lesson and apply it more directly to what we are doing. We're going to listen to the discussion that I did one more time to remind us. Then we're going to step the discussion and finally you're going to have a go at speaking the discussion. So let's play our oral game. Two sides of the story. People do say that there are two sides to every story. And we're going to see if we can come up with both sides for each of these ones below. I've chosen some stories that we know really well, but I will recap them a little bit just in case. So the first thing we're going to debate is Goldilocks. So if you don't know, Goldilocks was there walking in the woods and she wasn't really hungry and she came across a house and she went inside the house and she tried all the different things in there. She tried sitting on the chairs. She tried eating the porridge. She tried going in their beds and having a sleep. And one was always too big. One was always too small. And then one was always just right. Okay. Now the statement here says Goldilocks is a thief because she went into a house that she knew that wasn't hers. And she took lots of things and in fact, I think she broke some things as well while she was there. We're going to try and figure out some points for and against this argument. So for would mean that we think, yes, she is a thief. And against would mean we disagree. We think, no, she is not a thief. Okay so we've got some sentence stems to help us. I agree or disagree with this statement because... and then if you wanted to give a more balanced argument, you say on the one hand I think... on the other hand I think... I'm going to model using that one. And then it's going to be your turn. On the one hand, I think Goldilocks is a thief. She knew that that house wasn't hers and she went in and broke and ate and tried all these different things that she knew didn't belong to her. She didn't take care of their possessions either. So I do think that she is a thief and shouldn't have done it. But on the other hand, I think that Goldilocks is only a little girl and she was all alone in the woods. Perhaps it was a sensible idea to go into the nearest house and to try and get some food and to try and rest. And she didn't mean to hurt anybody by doing it. Can you see that I did one point which was for the statements and one point, which was against it. Okay. I would like you to pause here and think of your own ideas. You could make play some of mine if you'd like, but try and create your own ideas. One point for she is a thief and one point for she is not a thief. Fantastic. You used your imagination really well there. They were fantastic explanations. Okay the next one is "Little Red Riding Hood". So in the story of little red riding hood, little red riding it herself, walks off into the forest. She's sent by her mother to go and visit her grandmother who is not very well in bed. So she's taking her some flowers and some bread and all the things she might need to help her get better. And along the way she meets a hunter who warns her that there is a dangerous wolf about. When she finally gets to her mother's house she goes inside and she notices that her grandmother looks very strange. And she says, what big eyes you have what big nose you have till eventually we realise that it's not the grandmother. It's the Wolf dressed up as the grandmother in bed, trying to trick her so that he can gobble little red riding hood up. Now this statement says the wolf is not a monster. So if we agree with it, we're saying he's not, he's just a wolf. He's doing what wolves do that doesn't make him a monster. And on the other side, we're saying he is a monster. Look at what he did. Okay, so we got the same statements again, let's give this one a go. I'm going to model it quickly. And then you could have your turn. On the one hand, I agree with this statement, the wolf is just an animal and like all animals he needs to eat and wolves are carnivores. So they have to eat meat. He was just being creative and doing what he could to get his meal, just like we would if we were hungry. But on the other hand, I think he is a monster. I'm sure there are plenty of other things that he could have eaten. And he shouldn't have eaten an old lady and he definitely shouldn't eat a young girl. I also think he's quite cunning in the way he goes about it by pretending to be the grandmother. And I think that means that he's slightly more of a monster than I would have thought if he just ate her out of the blue. Okay, pause here, have a go at doing yours and then press play when you're done. Fantastic. You're really good at this. For our final one, we're going to consider linking it to our discussion. So this says Ganesh is a cheat. So I'm not going to model it this time. So Ganesh is a cheat. Do you agree? Do you disagree? I would like you to try and come up with at least one point that agrees and one point that disagrees. Pause here, have a go and then press play when you've done it. Those are brilliant ideas and we can use them in our discussion writing later on in the unit. Okay, we're now going to listen to the discussion again, just to recap exactly what I've said, but also, so you've heard it performed because you're going to be having a go at performing it later. I'm going to read you my discussion text now. Was Ganesh cheating? Hello everyone we have an important visitor today. Judge James. He is going to discuss the question of whether Ganesh was cheating and what should be done with it. Here he is now. Hello everyone. My name is judge James, and I'm here to decide the answer to an important question today. Was Ganesh cheating when he said that he travelled around the world? There are three valid arguments which suggest that he did cheat. First to say you travelled round the world to just physically moving from place to place Ganesh did not do that. And therefore he cheated. Second, he deliberately misled his brother by telling him about the journey, describing the things that he saw and he smelt suggesting that he has in fact, been there in person when clearly he had not. Third, he didn't own up to his cheating until after the wedding when it was too late. This suggests to me that he knew he was cheating and just wanted to gloat over his brother once he was married. But on the other hand, there are also three valid arguments that suggest that he did not cheat. First when Kartikeya challenged him to the race Ganesh did ask if he could travel in any way he liked and Kartikeya said yes in that case, Ganesh was free to choose his method of travel. Even if it was just to using his mind. Second, it is clearly possible to travel around the world, using your imagination and in your mind and Ganesh proved it. He saw the sites and heard the sounds and smelled the smells that Kartikeya did on that journey just as if he had been there. What's the difference? Last, but certainly not least, he did tell the truth at all times the fact that Kartikeya misunderstood him is not Ganesh's problem. Therefore, in conclusion, I think that that there is truth in both sides of this argument. I think Ganesh did deliberately mislead Kartikeya but he did so without lying. It is always important that relatives and friends can see things from each other's perspectives. So therefore, my judgement and my decision today is that the brothers should meet together for mediation. They should try and discuss together what happened and come to a compromise and a solution. Also given that this decision does impact Buddhi I think she should be involved in this mediation too, to represent herself and her wishes. Now that is my decision and it's up to them to try and find a solution. Okay, we're going to have a go at stepping the discussion today. It's going to look a little bit different than the way we have stepped our story discussions before just like our discussion map was a little bit different. Okay. It is time for us to step our discussion. So I have my story map with me on the floor, right in front of me to help me as I go. So you should get yours so you can do the same. Now for this as I explained briefly before for each section and we have four sections, we're going to step forward. Okay while we do that first step for our introduction, all of the little parts within that, we're going to step to the side instead just to show that there are parts of this one section, then we'll go back to the middle and do a next step to move on to that first step which is the arguments for. Okay So we will do end up in total doing four steps forward. But for each step, we'll do some to the side for what went in that circle. Okay we're going to do a step forward and that's why introductions we're going to do like this. Opening a book. Introduction we're then going to do a step forward and that's going to be our for. But then we're going to do another step forward that's going to be our against, and then we're going to do one more step forward and that's our conclusion. So let's, we're just stepping the structure now. Let's give that a go introduction, for, against, conclusion. Those are our four steps forward. Now, within that, we're now going to do our steps this side to show what happens in each section of our discussion. So to start us off, we have introduction. In our introduction, the first step to the side is going to be introducing the judge. So I'm just going to go like this. Which is just a Judge James saying hi and introducing himself. The next step to the side is going to be him introducing the question. What could we do for question? We could do this. Okay so we've had introducing him a question and then finally he describes it. We're going to discuss a balanced argument. So I might say, okay, so that's for, against. So let's do that again. We're doing step forward introduction, introduce Judge James. What's the question, which is, is Ganesh a cheater? For, against. Okay, now we can go back to the middle. So we've finished our introduction. Now we're going to do a step forward and move on to our for section So for our points I'm going to step to the side. First one, it was about the fact that Ganesh was supposed to travel and by sitting down and reading, he didn't travel. So really he did . So if you travel, I'm going to go travel and then we step aside and then we go because he didn't travel. Okay so travel no. The second reason we said that he was a cheat, was that he misled his brother by describing all the places. Okay so first I'm going to go like he's misleading him to something else. Okay so that's going to be that he misled him. Like he's pointing him in the wrong direction. Okay, so I've already had supposed to travel. He didn't, he misled his brother. And then finally it was that he got married before he revealed what he had done, which suggests that he is guilty. So for that, I'm going to do a heart. Okay, so for our for points we had supposed to travel, didn't, misled, finally got married before he revealed his true secrets about how he won. Okay, now we've done our for step forward we do our against points. Now for our against points, he says, can I travel how I like? And asked a question, so I'm going to do this one again. Okay. Can I travel how I like? What did he do? He read the books and then I'm going to say, he used his senses to describe, okay. So we had, can I travel how I like, reading the book, using the senses cause he could actually that shows that he didn't cheat. He was able to read the book and he could see, hear, smell everything that Kartikeya could. So how was it different? And our final one is all about telling the truth. So I'm going to go truth. So one more time for the against point. So this is saying that he's not a cheater actually. So can I travel how I like? Truth. Okay? Now we're going to go to our final section now, which is our conclusion. So going forward, I mean if the judge says that he thinks it's say, he thought it's quite balanced, so I'm going to do that balanced, but there were points on both sides, didn't he? Then he says he wants them to have a discussion. So I go to say discussion The brothers, okay,discussion. Finally he said he wants them to see from each other's perspectives. So I go to go like that. And then finally they said that Buddhi should be involved as well cause she's involved so I go to say Buddhi like she's just turning up to the job. Buddhi Okay? So this is my final section. So I've got my conclusion. I'm going to go balanced, conversation, understanding each other's perspective. Buddhi Okay? I'm going to go through it from the beginning to the end and then it's going to be your turn afterwards. So we start off with our introduction, introduce Judge James. Deduce the question For and against. Okay, step forward. Now we're going to do our for points. This is saying that he is a cheat, supposed to travel but he didn't. He misled his brother and he got married before he told the truth. Now for our against, this is saying that he was not a cheater. Can I travel how I like? Truth We'll say he always told the truth. Then finally, our last one conclusion, balanced, conversation with his brother, seeing it through their perspective or their eyes, Buddhi comes and joins the conversation. Okay so that is my whole stepping, stepping forward for each of the four sections, stepping to the side for the actions within each one. Great, now it's your turn to step the discussion. Remember your facial expressions, your clear pose and your clear steps. So for us, that's a clear step forward each time we changed it from one bubble or one section of our discussion to the next, but then steps to the side for each little part of what happens in that section. Pause here and do your amazing stepping and then press play when you're ready to carry on. Those steps blew me away. You have such creative imagination and you did a fantastic job at turning a discussion map into something physical, well done. Okay, the moment we've all been waiting for. It's now your turn to speak the discussion. So just like I did before, when you watched me performing it to you, you're going to do that yourself. So you're going to need to pretend to be mostly just judge whoever it could be judge whatever your name is, you can choose. You might have that little introduction at the beginning where you're pretending to be someone else. Use a microphone if you like, if that helps, remember to project your voice and speak clearly not too fast, not too slow and try and perform to someone. So it could be someone you live with, it could be a Teddy, it could be to the mirror, but it gives you a bit of an audience of something to perform to. Press pause here and have a go and then press play when you've done it. That's a round of applause for your brilliant performance. It's the first time you've done it. So there's no expectation that it would be perfect. It's just you having a go at telling that discussion as best as you can. And you did a fantastic job. Finally, a challenge task today. If you were Kartikeya, what would your reaction be to Ganesh's explanation? So you've just gone in and Ganesh has told you that he didn't actually go anywhere, but he read about books and went there in his mind. How would you react to that? So I'm not asking you to think about how Kartikeya would, I want to know what you would do. How do you feel about it? Do you think it's cheating or not cheating? Would you react in a calm way? Would you be really cross? I want you to tell me so I would accept his explanation because, so you would say, okay, fair enough. Or I would reject his explanation for because you would say, no, you're a cheater and you'd be really cross about it. Pause here and have a go at either writing down your answer or saying it out loud and then press play when you've done that. You have done a fantastic job today at telling your discussion, using a story map and using of steps as well to help solidify it all in our brain. Now that we know our discussion really, really well, we can now move on to deepening our understanding of what a discussion is and what it really means for for and against in more detail. If you would like to share anything from today's lesson with me, ask a parent or carer to put it on Instagram, Facebook or Twitter, you can tag Oak National and use the hashtag learn with Oak. I hope to see you in the next lesson.

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